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Went to three of the studies linked. All three conclude that the negative effect risk is far less than being unvaccinated. They all recommend getting a vaccine.

Exactly what was the point of this post?

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I picked a link from your list and it concluded the following which is very different than your title:

“Conversely, Vaccination has a significant effect on the prevention of severe SARS-Cov-2 infection and ensuing complications [25] with an extremely low rate of severe complications. As initially estimated, the incidence of VITT is perhaps 1 case per 100,000 vaccine exposures [40]. Consequently, COVID-19 vaccination should be strongly encouraged given benefits outweigh its potential risks“

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I picked a link from your list and it concluded the following which is very different than your title:

“Conversely, Vaccination has a significant effect on the prevention of severe SARS-Cov-2 infection and ensuing complications [25] with an extremely low rate of severe complications. As initially estimated, the incidence of VITT is perhaps 1 case per 100,000 vaccine exposures [40]. Consequently, COVID-19 vaccination should be strongly encouraged given benefits outweigh its potential risks“

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The link doesn't work

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https://tnc.news/2021/05/05/ontario-medical-regulator-threatens-to-punish-doctors-for-criticizing-lockdowns/

This goes back to May 2021. Several doctors in Ontario have already been "punished" either by suspension or being "disciplined". Some have lost their jobs. Others have been cancelled.

It should be obvious by now, even to the seriously cognitively dissonant that there is a coordinated agenda. Think about it.

- Doctors being silenced in the US and Canada by their medical boards.

- Not a single politician has spoken out about this censoring of dissenting medical voices - not even Ron Desantis.

- Doctors in the UK being shamed for speaking out.

- University research professors being silenced and censored. I will name one - Byram Bridle, a Canadian vaccinologist.

- Biden, Trudeau, Macron, Austria, Germany, Australia, Ireland and others all shaming the unvaccinated.

- Vaccine passports and now the blatantly coordinated push and "trial balloons" in the MSM for mandatory vaccination for all.

- What countries allow alternative treatments? - mostly 3rd world other than Japan - Africa, India (some states, not all). None of the G7 nations allow it.

- The push to vaccinate pregnant women and infants.

- The denial of naturally acquired immunity.

If there were any outliers in all of this, then you could try to convince me that this is not planned. Find one.

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Today on unsolved mysteries "what happened to the flu in 2020?" Only 1500 cases, are y'all so brainwashed you believe we went from millions of cases of flu to only 1500 case's? Ockams Razor all flu case's were reported as Covid case's. In 2020 if you were walking down the sidewalk and a piano fell on your head you died of Covid.

"My own view is that this planet is used as a penal colony, lunatic asylum and dumping ground by a superior civilisation, to get rid of the undesirable and unfit. I can't prove it, but you can't disprove it either." ~ Christopher Hitchens

"The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." ~ George Orwell

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." ~ Thomas Paine

"Truth is by nature self-evident. As soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear." ~ Mahatma Gandhi

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." ~ H. L. Mencken

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At best we should risk stratify who receives the vaccine ( elderly and co-morbid conditions). No need to mandate exposing the entire population to the potential adverse risks of vaccination. Makes zero sense.

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At this point it hardly matters. The country is in the crapper. Corruption is so rampant it's everywhere from your local town right to the top. The elites have total control and want more. First they scared you, then they bribed you, then they guilted you, then they shamed you, then they blamed you, then they fired you. But they care and are only trying to protect you. Like sheep to the slaughter the brainwashed masses go.

"A mind is like a parachute. It doesnt work if it is not open"

Frank Zappa

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." ~ H. L. Mencken

"It is not necessary to bury the truth. It is sufficient merely to delay it until nobody cares." ~ Napoleon Bonaparte

"They'll get it all from you sooner or later 'cause they own this f**kin' place. It's a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good, honest, hard-working people: white collar, blue collar, it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on." ~ George Carlin

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Jan 9, 2022·edited Jan 9, 2022

So, here's the problem. For those of us without medical degrees, a lot of these studies are not entirely understandable. That the vaccines can cause death and disease in some cases, most of us know. This is the part of the current narrative that is missing from "informed consent."

But the question will still remain: "Are the vaccines worse than the virus?" Or in other words, are the same diseases possible from Covid infection? and if so, are they more prevalent in covid infected patients, or in vaccinated persons?

Take the very first article linked, which mentions "Cerebral venous thrombosis after COVID-19 vaccination". My first duty is to see whether "cerebral venous thrombosis" is strictly an effect of the vaccine, or whether it also comes from Covid infection. And sure enough, it is possible to get this from Covid: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7538072/

So now I need to know: what is the percentage of risk from Covid versus from Vaccine? How does this percentage work out in different age groups, and in healthy vs. unhealthy groups? Without that, I can't really determine my risk/reward ratio.

Of course, for myself, I'd rather take treatments that have no risk (or extremely low risk) at all! So these current vaccines are not on the table, since I have no long-term data to study. But if we are going to use this page of links for others, we need to be aware of the counter-argument, which is: "But you can also get these things from Covid infection!"

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For someone not in the medical field , you should only see what is going in the hospitals during this period of time.

70% of COVID admissions are nonvaxed. This is taking Up precious hospital beds for patients who need cancer surgery that is now delayed because there are no beds available. Yea you maybe developed the optical mouse, but yes your a little mouse yourself with no clear view or eyesight what is really going on. Not impressed.

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It’s interesting if you read these studies how rare the side affects are and then one would have to compare what the effects of having the disease. I’ve personally known 2 family members who had to be intubated. These people definitely would have done better w the vaccine. The omicron is way different and shouldn’t be treated like the earlier versions. But pointing to relative outliers and blanket no vaccine drumbeats is disheartening.

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Agree, because credibility has to be maintained, even if it's painstaking.

I hate the Vax, don't want it, not gonna do it, so I am in the fight against it - But we can not shovel unsubstantiated commentary at people full of "iffy" fantastic sounding crap and expect that to change minds and carry the day. If you have a list of a thousand credible studies, publish the damn thing.... but if you are willing to do that - then it better be good. The left being on a war footing with everyone who is not of their ideological ilk - seriously does rely on disinformation and controlled opposition to undermine their opponents. They labor to "fake out" their opposition by creating seemingly plausible but easily discreditable narratives. Don't underestimate the natural human tendency to excitedly broadcast the "OMG, did hear about this" sound bites and links. The phenomenal story then gathers attention, adherents, momentum... and the the next thing you know it gets roundly debunked by experts on both sides who just aren't going to stake their reputations on backing up the theory that the vax produces a strong magnetic field at the site of injection that mysteriously causes brass keys and stainless steel dinnerware to stick to your arm. And their you stand publicly with your pants down looking like a royal ass because you didn't know that non ferrus metals (non-iron containing) are not going to be tractable by a magnetic field- right?..... 3rd grade science?

But Soccer Mommy Penelope, and Beer Gut Bruce couldn't be bothered to fact check themselves and went right ahead and circulated because .... it sounded good at the time.

Do us all a favor and DON'T BE THAT DUMBSHIT.

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I can tell you that almost no doctor ever reads the EULA to the patient, which is what they’re supposed to do. Because if they read it, it would be the most honest thing they would have done that day and would subsequently put a big dent in the day’s jab business.

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The site seems a plant, pushing 'the virus doesn't exist' and BS about tracking people with the graphene. Which makes me presume a bunch of those studies will be misrepresented and the whole thing is just there to make us look silly for linking to it.

It would be hugely helpful Steve if you published the list itself, getting volunteers to check they are relevant and say what we're told they say.

It's a big task but worth it, rather than us all linking to a site that will immediately have people's eyes rolling?

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Jan 9, 2022·edited Jan 9, 2022

Steve,

It seems to me that you're living in a parallel universe.

Could you and your scientists jump back into our universe before we can discuss this matter any further?

Welcome to our Covid Zone where Red=Blue and Black = White.

Once you're back to our Covid Zone, you'll realize that some Supreme Court Justices hiding behind their masks after been triple vaxxed and tested negative continued to preach that "Vaccines are safe and effective" on Jan 7th,2022 when hearing the OSHA vaxx mandate case.

Should I remind you that the Vaccine Act (1986) signed by Reagan states clearly that "Vaccines are unavoidably unsafe"? Are these SCOTUS justices violating the US law by lying publicly?

In the Covid Zone we can't do anything about these untouchables but you may investigate with your scientists in your universe to see how these untouchables can be sued for lying.

Is Dr. M Yeadon one of you scientists?

https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigative-Committee:5/Mike-Session-86-en:0

Help please!

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Jan 9, 2022·edited Jan 9, 2022

Hmmm ... maybe we need to send the peer reviewed articles to the US Supreme Court who seem quite illiterate about the topic of vaccine injuries. Why would you pass mandates for a vaccine that fails to stop transmission, is ineffective after less than a year, is ineffective with Omnicron and isn't safe?

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