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I studied natural medicine and successfuly practice it. I have always seen a virus as defined pre modern medicine. A toxic condition caused by the sickening of cells and the subsequent release of toxic spike proteins as the cell dies. This can be caused by acute radiation exposure or even during a systemic toxin cleanse and is called the herxheimer reaction. The results are the same, flu like symptoms as the body struggles to cleanse itself of the toxic proteins. When they first announced that the mRNA jabs would create spike proteins, I knew that they were openly saying that they were engaging their active population reduction plan. And since the public does not understand human biology, the truth flew right over their heads.

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Shame on you Kirsch. Virology isolation experiments do NOT use a VALID scientific method to produce results and conclusions. Any numpty with a tertiary education can learn to read these papers and spot the lack of APPROPRIATE NEGATIVE CONTROLS. Maybe viruses do exist. The point is this has not yet been demonstrated. The "show me the virus" crowd have proposed experiments that would assess both internal and external validity of the virologists' methods. Why do you put your money where your mouth is and fund such inquiry. Instead of blowing hot air out of it about "debate" in a format that allows for every logical fallacy and disingenuous rhetorical maneuver in the book.

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Why do you keep calling these darpa shots vaxines... ? Why play into this narrative, When you know what these darpa shots are intended to do ? How the brainwashing in sounds, language and words twist the tongue and mind , it continues from the father of lies sabba tea an cults... do no harm right , what is their intentions and purpose ? Do you not see the big picture yet?

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I don't think that's true. If you want I can probably get Kaufman, Cowan and Dr. Robert O Young together for a show. Let me know. We need to squash this one and only discrepancy folks have with you.

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There isn't anything that's going to make me believe that viruses are primary cause of disease.

Whatever the supposed causes the body mind complex of the human being is in charge of anything and everything that goes on inside and on the immediate exterior of the body. It is also in charge of events and time and space of the human being. It is true that we all influence each other and cross each other's paths. It is also true that we exist in a womb of probability and possibility that is created for the existence of our type of life. So it is not as if the human body mind and the Consciousness Within is all powerful. There are other forces in motion that have a large impact on our life and our health. But it is also obvious that our Consciousness and the Free Will that it has has been granted great powers and Freedoms that extend to the greatest extent possible that we could imagine in a universe where there are similar beings all around us who are granted those same freedoms. The fact that we don't all cancel out each other's Free Will is incredible.

When I help people it is based on the fact that the human body mind complex is in charge of the person's health and that the trans-consciousness or the metaprogram that determines the semi-permeable membrane of reality that interacts with all other fields of a human being has allowed a situation to occur that has led to the person's current consciously unwanted circumstance.

The human body mind can be interacted with as a mechanic might interact with a vehicle computer. And the human body mind will like a GPS not tell you exactly what is wrong but will lead you step by step out of the woods of the problem and toward better and better health outcomes. Sometimes viruses come up but even when viruses come up as a priority to deal with it is often the concept or the belief about viruses rather than some actual particle. Even if the actual particle is involved the body Minds conscious handling of it is more important than the conscious particle itself. I find that when dealing with the human body mind in this way and when dealing with the supposed illness in this way a person doesn't require any interaction with the medical industrial complex nor do they need to have any side effects nor do they need to spend an army leg nor do they need health care benefits in order to get well. They don't need to "fight a war" against microbes of any kind.

The human being needs to reflect on their use of their consciousness, they need to attend to their relationship to their own self, their relationship between their self and other human beings, their relationship between themselves and the Creator, their relationship between themselves and the plants and animals in the environment around them, and all of the perceptions and beliefs that coordinate and control their life.

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i often get called out by james randi lovers. don't you want to prove your argument and take the million he offers?

nope. you can't prove anything to a closed mind. and debates are not helpful when the fundamental points are ignored and buried.

A person can listen to both sides of an argument they don't have to be in the same room yelling at each other

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Well since we are going to speak only truth might as well get a few things straight:

Viruses do not exist. Period.

The earth is flat.

Space is made in a Hollywood basement.

Nobody has ever walked on the Moon. It's a light source and not a rock. Thus it can't be landed on.

Dinosaurs are a hoax.

Nukes do not exist. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fire bombed.

Weather is controlled by HAARP and scalar technology.

The lines in the sky are toxic chem-trails and contain lithium, aluminum, barium and other toxins.

9/11 was planned, executed and covered up by the USA puppet "government" and Israel.

JFK, MLK, Malcomn X, RFK, John Lennon and others were murdered by the USA "government".

All mass shootings are hoaxes. All are fake with crisis actors. Gun control is the goal.

History is one huge lie.

Cancer is not what the idiot medical system says it is. Oncologists are murderers and liars.

Satan controls this earthly realm and his Jewbag minions of the Synagogue of Satan run the show.

The Federal Reserve is a private banking cartel owned by International Jews to bankrupt the USA.

There is not even one Senator, Congressman, Governor, President or executive level appointee that is honest about the scamdemic or anything for that matter. All sub-human garbage.

There is not even one sovereign country in existence on this earth. All owned by the Jews and Satan.

All media is complete and total lies.

Most all Hollywood actresses / icons are trannies.

Obama is a gay man and "Michelle" (Big Mike) is a Tranny. The kids were adopted.

Oil is not a fossil fuel. It is the second most plentiful fluid after water and is replenished all the time.

Tesla free energy exists but is buried by the same scum that enslave humanity.

This is just scratching the surface. EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW IS A LIE.

You are welcome.

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Kirsch must be controlled opposition. Like so many others. Big Pharma has so much money to ply owned bitches like Kirsch. No way Big Pharma is going to ever let the virus hoax be discovered. Way too much at stake for all the childhood killer vaccines, Flu shots, and other "treatments" for the plethora of fake "viruses".

If ole Kirsch actually told the truth about viruses not existing, he may get cut off from Big Pharma money and might even get whacked.

Truth tellers with a big audience that tell the whole truth get whacked.

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You gotta love how Steve "forgets" that Dr. Mark Bailey already debated Kevin McCairn back in May.

DOES SARS-CoV-2 EXIST? Virus Debate Between Dr. Mark Bailey & Dr. Kevin McCairn:

https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/sars-cov-2-existence-debate-bailey-vs-mccairn:6

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Yay, another false and misleading "final word" from Steve on this topic! Lol.

The real reason I now refuse to debate Steve Kirsch (or engage with him, Richard Fleming or Kevin McCairn) (hint: it’s not what Steve tells his readers)

Posted July 24, 2022:

https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/why-i-now-refuse-to-debate-steve-kirsch-or-richard-fleming-or-kevin-mccairn/

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I'm just here for the ratio. 👍😉🙋‍♂️

> I will not be commenting on this topic any further

PLEASE GOD make it be so!!!

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You can use techniques like small angle x-ray or neutron scattering to observe objects smaller than the wavelengths of visible light.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33186231/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35157798/

https://neutrons.ornl.gov/highlights/mapping-hydrogen-atoms-sars-cov-2-main-protease

https://andor.oxinst.com/learning/view/article/how-to-use-confocal-microscopy-to-image-viruses

I'm not sure how tricky it is to build an SAXs machine.

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Sep 28, 2022·edited Sep 28, 2022

One suspicious thing about Andrew Kaufman is that he emerged in the alternative media through YouTube channels about flat earth. The first video on his YouTube channel is an interview that he did in November 2019 with the flat earther James True (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x526Y0_NV6I). In the description of the video, Kaufman says that it was his debut interview, but he did not yet discuss viruses or terrain theory in the interview. References to Kaufman on Twitter became more frequent after his interview with the flat earther Richie from Boston on March 21st, 2020 (https://twitter.com/search?q=until:2020-03-21+%22andrew+kaufman%22&f=live). On March 13th 2020 UTC, the flat earther Crrow777 tweeted: "We have recorded a Dr Kaufman follow up and hope to get it by tonight." Apart from Crrow777 and James True, I didn't find other people who had interviewed Kaufman before Richie from Boston. So as far as I can tell, the first 3 YouTubers who interviewed Kaufman were all flat earthers, which is suspicious if you believe that flat earth channels are ran by disinformation agents.

Kaufman's film "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" was produced by the people behind the flat earth channel Spacebusters and it was narrated by Steve Falconer from Spacebusters. As far as I can tell, Spacebusters promoted the theory that viruses are non-pathogenic exosomes even before Kaufman, because on March 4th 2020, they posted a video titled "IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON CORONAVIRUS 5G KUNG FLU" which featured clips of a radio show from 2009 where Aajonus Vonderplanitz talked about terrain theory and about how viruses are actually non-pathogenic exosomes (https://www.bitchute.com/video/mWcUoESRO0c5/). So is it a coincidence that two months before COVID hit the news, Kaufman did his debut interview with a flat earth YouTuber, and that in early March 2020, flat earthers were already promoting Kaufman's theory even before Kaufman himself?

In 2020, I found 12 YouTube channels which had reposted Kaufman's "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" video, out of which 9 were flat earth channels. And out of the remaining 3 channels, one was Kaufman's channel, and another one was Amandha Vollmer's channel "YumNaturals Emporium". Vollmer was one of the participants of EVENT 202, whose logo featured a disc earth and whose figurehead was the flat earther Dave Murphy.

The credits of the "Hippocratic Hypocrisy" film say that it's a film "by" Andrew Kaufman, but the only way in which the film featured Kaufman was that it included clips of his interview with Max Igan. Max Igan has said that Steve from Spacebusters is a "friend of his": "It was actually a good report put out by a friend of mine, who's I believe in Denmark at the moment, called Steve Falconer. He's got a YouTube channel or a BitChute channel called Spacebusters." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j670kqChxDQ&t=9m56s) On January 15th 2020 (or maybe a day later or earlier depending on the time zone), Max Igan posted a video where he said that the earth is flat, but in a video that he posted on January 20th UTC, he said that he was being targeted with mind control technology and that he doesn't actually believe in flat earth (https://www.bitchute.com/video/afugFIfsRQR8/). However next on January 16th UTC, he again said that "The earth is a globe, yes, the earth is flat, yes, and they can both coexist at the same time. [...] The truth is the earth is flat. And the truth is the earth is globe. It's just depending on your belief, folks, because both are absolutely true." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64tpPF2xaTo)

Max Igan also promoted the Tartaria and mud flood conspiracies which are closely linked to flat earth. I found that about half or more of the biggest YouTube channels that have posted videos about Tartaria or mud floods have also posted videos about flat earth and vice versa. The YouTube user "Static in the attic" who made videos about mud floods said that "the mud flood subject really got coined by Philipp Druzhinin", and Druzhinin is a flat earther (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RtVIks700&t=11m44s). (I didn't find any reference to mud floods in the books of Anatoly Fomenko, but somehow the topic of mud floods became connected to the topic of Tartaria on YouTube.) But basically I believe that there is a network of disinformation agents who around 2015 popularized the flat earth conspiracy, and a few years later the same people popularized the Tartaria and mud flood conspiracies, and then in 2020 they helped popularize Kaufman's theory that viruses are actually non-pathogenic exosomes. And I believe that the same network includes people like Max Igan who are linked to the flat earth movement but who are not overtly flat earthers or who present themselves as agnostic about flat earth.

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