What I think of the Bryan Ardis video, "Watch the Water"
The video is out. I've seen it. Don't waste your time. Bryan met with us so we had an opportunity to ask questions. We weren't impressed.
On April 14, 2022, a group of my colleagues met with Dr. Ardis and Dr. Tau Braun to discuss their findings.
I asked, “what’s the big message you are trying to convey?”
Answer #1: “We are dealing with a venom problem.”
Their point is that if you realize that, you can apply solutions from a familiar domain. But we don’t agree on the premise.
I then asked, “What’s the most important behavioral change you’d want people to make?”
Answer #2: “Halt the vaccine immediately.”
We agree with that.
Bottom line: Collectively we don’t buy the venom story. We do agree the vaccines are dangerous and should be stopped.
There is a nice writeup on this at About Those Venom Proteins... and that article links to Meryl Nass’s writeup.
I really liked Pierre Kory’s take.
Looks like this is a hot topic considering the number of comments :).
In this article, I give my overall reaction and then specifically respond to some of the key points in the video.
We do agree there is evidence that parts of the virus sequences are similar to snake venom but it’s not long enough to make a call on this.
But as for the other assertions, we aren’t buying it.
Here is the Stew Peters interview (1 hour):
Here is the Brighteon interview (Part 1). Here is Part 2 and Part 3.
Bryan also said we should read this article (VenomTech company announces massive library of SNAKE VENOM peptides for pharmaceutical development; “nanocarriers” stabilize snake venom in WATER (PubMed)) written by Mike Adams.
It’s an interesting narrative. I watched the Stew Peters episode and haven’t watched the Brighteon episodes yet, so with those caveats, these are my preliminary thoughts:
Bryan attended the call on Apr 14 with my colleagues after the videos aired. This is something that people promoting false narratives never agree to. So that was at least promising.
The general reaction from my colleagues (with few exceptions) was to distance ourselves from his narrative because it isn’t credible.
Most of us didn’t like the narrative presentation in the videos. It would have been much better to enumerate up front what the novel claims are and then methodically justify each claim with evidence. Instead it was a long mystery novel.
My Substack readers are split on whether Dr Ardis is credible as you’ll see from the comments below.
On the call, some of our team thought he’s making some observations that are worthy of discussion. Others were less impressed. At the end of the day, most all didn’t think it advances our understanding.
I was amazed at the fortune cookie story at the end of the Stew Peters interview. That just seems too hard to believe. But I don’t think Bryan would lie about it either. Weird.
He mispronounced Genentech and was unfamiliar with them. Wow.
The Bing Liu murder mentioned in the video is real. It was a very suspicious death. The lover’s quarrel story which has been promoted by the police is implausible because nobody knew he had a girlfriend. So all of us think there is more to that story. So we agree with Bryan on that.
Do I think Dr. Ardis has “solved” it and all the pieces fit together? No and the call didn’t change that.
Dr. Sabine Hazan has a totally different theory as to what is going on and how the virus spreads. I’ll let her disclose her theory when she is ready. It’s very different from what Bryan says.
Clearly, different people have different hypotheses that they believe. It’s good to hear different points of view. That’s how we learn.
My take on his key points
Here are some of the key points and my thoughts on them:
Do I think it is a poison rather than a virus? No. You can’t get poisoned from another person through close contact like at a party. More importantly, if it is a poison, this would have been discovered by now by someone. Also, poisons don’t replicate over time so the “viral load” won’t increase over time. I’m not buying it. If it is a poison, why would a treatment like fluvoxamine be so effective?
Do I think the virus is spread through the water? No. The virus has spread worldwide. It would take massive coordination to poison water supplies all over the world and not get caught. Ardis conflates CDC sponsored testing of municipal wastewater for COVID with the water we drink.
Do I think the virus is related to snake venom? Dr. Tau Braun was discussing the similarities to snake venom in late 2020. But the experts I talked to on this weren’t impressed because the sequences were too short.
Is Ardis on a hit list? I think so because I’ve personally verified this. I heard that assertion directly from a top government official. However, there is no explicit “hit list” that anyone has seen.
Do any of us think the drinking water is being deliberately poisoned by people? No.
Could something be getting in the drinking water? Unlikely, but this is easy enough to test. Bryan should have done it.
Is it spread through the air almost exclusively? That’s an interesting question. That’s the current thinking. I also know that there were several people who got sick at the DTM event who all worked in the same room together. I doubt it was in the water or in the food. So I’m still a believer in the traditional explanations of viral spread, but I’m open to seeing evidence that I’m wrong.
Are toxin-like peptides found in plasma, urine and fecal samples from COVID-19 patients? Apparently true. Check out this paper. What is the significance? To be determined. As the paper points out, this raises more questions than it answers (see the Conclusion section of the paper).
If I missed a key point you’d like an opinion on, let me know in the comments.
There is a nice writeup on this at About Those Venom Proteins... and that article links to Meryl Nass’s writeup. I really liked Pierre Kory’s take.
As I write this, we’re at 1,500 reader comments which makes this one of the most heavily commented article I’ve written recently.
It’s always good to question our assumptions and listen to novel explanations about what is going on. This is pretty complex because we are dealing with the effects of both a novel virus and a novel vaccine.
In summary, we are distancing ourselves from endorsing this explanation.
The safest advice that we can all agree on is to avoid all the vaccines, especially for your kids.
theres part 2...https://rumble.com/v1qe0hh-live-7pm-worldwide-exclusive-dr.-ardis-was-wrong.html
I'm seriously disappointed by the circular logic in your response Mr. Kirsch. I was looking forward to valid counter points from you.
"You can’t get poisoned from another person through close contact like at a party".
But that's not the argument by Dr. Ardis. You are mixing the official narrative in with the sPIke / sNAke protein narrative. If it's a snake poison it would not be infectious, but could possibly be spread through the water and thus appear, to be infectious. It seems you are not fully understanding the hypotesis.
"...More importantly, if it is a poison, this would have been discovered by now by someone"
You are responding to a person who possibly has discovered it's a poison, by arguing someone would have discovered this if it was true. This is also circular logic.
"...Also, poisons don’t replicate over time so the “viral load” won’t increase over time
Again, you are mixing the narratives. If it is indeed a poison and if it is indeed spread through the water, it would appear like a virus spreading.
".....I’m not buying it"
But so far you appear to be having an emotional reaction, simply because the snake venom hypothesis is so different from everything Big Pharma and the Media has repeated to us for years. This is called brainwash, and brainwash works on all of us if we expose ourselves to it. No one is too intelligent to be brainwashed, unless you're intelligent enough to not expose yourself to the brainwash.
"If it is a poison, why would a treatment like fluvoxamine be so effective?"
This is a more factual point, so I'll be looking for Dr. Ardis comment on this. I'm not a doctor or a scientist, so like the vast majority of the population I'm trying to figure out what's going on. You can help us by keeping your analysis factual and reason based.
"Do I think the virus is spread through the water? No. The virus has spread worldwide. It would take massive coordination to poison water supplies all over the world and not get caught"
But if Dr. Ardis is correct, didn't they just get caught? More circular logic. Regarding massive coordination, we have seen nothing but, massive coordination, throughout this whole global lockdown response. This counter argument is almost bewildering and again sounds mostly like an emotional response hearing something completely new that the media and Big Pharma has not been repeating to us for years.
"Ardis conflates CDC sponsored testing of municipal wastewater for COVID with the water we drink"
The wastewater is what the CDC is testing for virus spread. The drinking water is how Dr. Ardis is hypothesizing they could be spreading it. Again you are mixing the narratives and using circular logic.
"...But the experts I talked to on this weren’t impressed because the sequences were too short"
Isn't that why it's only "similarities" ? You can't refute a claim there are similarities, by pointing out there is no complete match. Circular logic.
Let's skip the hit list point because you are not dismissing it, and it's not evidence for or against any of the narratives.
"Do any of us think the drinking water is being deliberately poisoned by people? No."
Maybe it's not, but why? So far we have not come up with any valid counter argument to the venom hypotesis. Circular logic only foos ourselves and servers the bio terrorists in high places. We must get our act together and get smart, and do so quickly.
"Could something be getting in the drinking water? Unlikely, but this is easy enough to test. Bryan should have done it."
It certainly sounds unlikely, but why? Only because it's not the narrative we are used to hearing. That's the only measuring stick we have for asserting if something sounds "unlikely". But that's not the same as reasoning why, it's "unlikely". Gassing millions of jews certainly sounds unlikely, but at the same time it happened. How many dismissed the rumors at the time, because it sounded 'unlikely' ? If indeed it's a synthetic venom being spread through the water, wouldn't it be short bursts injected into the water? And doesn't the spread seem to pop up in various places at different points in time? How could Dr. Ardis have kept this under suveillance?
This brings to mind an old show on Info Wars, where Alex Jones was exposing how the CIA owned big houses with swimming pools in California and other places, where they were planning to add poison and then drain it into the water supply, which then would end up in our drinking water eventually. I don't remember the details and cannot speak to the validity, but as I remember it the point was that despite this sounding unlikely, it would actually work somehow. Perhaps reach out to Alex Jones for more of this claim, for further investigation.
"Are toxin-like peptides found in plasma, urine and fecal samples from COVID-19 patients? Apparently true"
Here we have some more concrete evidence for the venom narrative, and so far we only have circular logic and emotional reaction from all of us being brainwashed.
This is the future of humanity we are talking about. We cannot afford to fool ourselves by bowing down to the official narrative. There is nothing so far in the venom narrative that I can dismiss, and the concept of spreading a venom both through water AND through vaccines, sounds exactly diabolical enough for the people behind all this. We must all be very careful and precise when we try to find out what is really going on.
All that being said, you are doing very important work Mr. Kirsch and I'm paying attention to your publications. Thank you for that. It would be helpful to all of us, yourself included, if you and Ardis got together somewhere and did a brainstorm on this whole subject. Hit him hard with anything factual and see what comes out of it. Dr. Ardis himself openly admits he was wrong about his previous convictions and changed his position. We can all do that, so let's follow the evidence.
I was similarly disappointed with the response from Dr. Pierre Cory, who added ridicule to his circular logic. In fact it was so unscientific a response, I could no longer defend subscribing to his substack and he now appears to me as a highly educated fool.
Good luck to all of us.