Whoa! You aren't going to believe this. An ER doc agreed to debate me on "Why can't we talk about it?"
The debate will be on Twitter Spaces in 30 minutes from now
It’s with Liza Dunn. Debate starts at 3pm PST (in 30 minutes from now) and will last for an hour and it will be recorded.
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I tried to keep the debate focused on VAERS. One topic at a time.
My point is that there are only 3 options for the excess deaths: fraud, overreporting, or it’s a killer vaccine.
She said it was overreporting, but produced no evidence to back her claim. She said most people were unaware of it before, but now said everyone knew about it INSTANTLY right after the vaccines rolled out.
Evidence that the shots are killing massive numbers of people
First a clarifying questions (just to understand where you are coming from and what evidence is persuasive for you):
If you inject 20 patients with the COVID vax and 50% of the die in a week, does that cause you to question the large scale studies? Or do you continue to vaccinate patients? He would pause.
Views of Censorship of those with different views? AB2098 support? He believes in free speech.
Assuming the 50% death rate continues, at what point do you believe your own eyes vs. the clinical trials?
Should we be looking at all the evidence or just peer-reviewed data published in medical journals? Do you weigh these strictly on size of trial? So if there is corruption, it doesn’t matter?
Are you certain that none of the people in the vax group in the Pfizer study died from the vax? How can the FDA be certain of that? What tests did they do to assess causality?
Do you know of a single prominent person who has shifted from red to blue pill?
Do you agree the DEATH safety signal triggered in VAERS? PE signal?
# kids <16 died FROM COVID?
if all 14 kids 12-18 in VAERS died from bleeding in the brain seven days after they got the vaccine, would you dismiss it as an anecdote?
Kid down they now call 911. Never happened before!!! Because kids have heart problems. Never happened during COVID.
If 3 people die from gunshot, is it evidence that bullets kill people or do we need a large trial on whether bullets kill people.
Turbo cancer and sudden deaths suddenly are showing up in huge numbers but only in the vaccinated in survey of 1,000 deaths. Have you seen other survey of deaths causes in vax/unvaxxed showing the opposite?
What is causing all these sudden deaths?
Israeli safety data: Grace Lee didn’t want to answer the question Yes or No as to whether see wanted to see the Israeli MOH data. Do you support that?
Campbell calling for a halt for the COVID vaccines.
Suggest a 10 year get the vax.
I had plenty of evidence it is a killer shot/dangerous (didn’t have time for all of it):
The VAERS reports are ONLY elevated for the COVID vaccine… not for any other vaccine.
The German data shows a HUGE spike in sudden death right when the vaccines rolled out and it stayed elevated. This is an entire country. How do you explain that?
My neurologist who has 20,000 patients said her patients were so injured that needed to make 1,000 VAERS reports, but only made 2 before giving up. She never had any vax incidents in her 11 years that she ever felt she needed to report. The Israeli government did a survey in Israel and found a 4% rate of neurological injuries.
The Thailand study (total 301 studied) showing cardiac injury in nearly 30% of kids with 1 in 29 boys with subclinical myocarditis/pericarditis. 1 child had clinical myocarditis. Could be bad luck but how do we explain the 3% rates of myocarditis in the military? Or the 1 in 70 rate at Monte Vista Christian School?
Doctors don’t have time to make the VAERS reports and are discouraged from making them since “it can’t be the vaccine”
Retsef Levi study showing 25% increase in calls correlated with the vaccine. Denied further data.
Seychelles huge increase in excess deaths (Angela)
At UCSF, 2 vax deaths, 0 COVID deaths. Reverse stats anywhere? Nobody on staff is taking the boosters at UCSF
Naomi Wolf text
Most of the VAERS reports are made by healthcare providers
We (Leonard Murphy) did an unbiased third party survey of healthcare providers and none reported increasing their propensity to report a reaction
The Schwab paper showed that at least 20% of the people who died within 20 days were killed by the vaccine (they just analyzed 20% where the evidence was the most clear cut, but it could have been over 70% of the cases that were killed by the vaccine). The vaccine left it’s telltale fingerprint on these dead bodies. She said that wasn’t enough. Really? How do you explain how those bodies were so damaged? Random luck? The pathologists have never seen anything like that before. They even wrote: “During the last 20 years of autopsy service at Heidelberg University Hospital we did not observe comparable myocardial inflammatory infiltration.” Now they have 5 cases!?! Explain that one for me. The fingerprint was the same in the cases and they got lucky and found confirmation of the calling card in one of the cases: “The latter criterion is supported by demonstration of a phenotypically identical T-cell infiltrate at the deltoidal injection site in one of the cases.”
Pfizer study showed more people died in the vax group than placebo. Where is the proof of a death benefit?
V-safe data shows 8% sought medical care (urgent care or hospital). Is that normal for a vaccine?
How about the hundreds of thousands of vaccine injured?
How do we explain people who get the vax and develop 86 or more common vax symptoms?
How do you explain the insurance data from Germany and the US?
Pfizer never did a proper autopsy on the dead bodies after vaccine. Where was the histology proving the vaccine didn’t cause the deaths? Doesn’t anyone care?
I couldn’t find a single cardiologist whose myocarditis rates dropped after the vax rollout.
We’ve never seen rates of sudden death in young people as we have post vax
All of a sudden we see TV commercials featuring kids with myocarditis; these only happened after the vaccines rolled out for that age group. Why would they do that if the rates are now super low after the vaccines?
Healthcare provider do most of the VAERS reporting.
If you read the VAERS reports, in many cases symptoms started right after the vaccine.
How do you explain the fact that the CDC is ignoring the death and pulmonary embolism safety signals triggered in VAERS?
My surveys show more people died from the vaccine than COVID (this is an unbiased sample being asked by a third party polling agency).
Direct data submitted by healthcare organizations show massive deaths from the vaccine that the doctors attributed to the vaccine
The Wayne Root anecdote would be impossible to explain if the vaccines are safe. I defy her to come up with an anecdote that is the reverse. If the vaccines were live saving, it would be EASY for her to find many reverse anecdotes. Does she have any?
The strange clots… how does she explain the clots that embalmers started seeing 6 months after the vaccines first rolled out? The same clots are found in living people. They are not post-mortem clots. These have never been seen before according to the embalmers and a very experienced pathologist. But nobody wants to accept my invitation to look at the clots and explain them. A 2 foot long clot being removed intact is unprecedented.
If COVID causes myocarditis, then why didn’t anyone ever talk about that before the vaccine? And how do you explain that the virus which creates NO added risk per this large-scale Israeli study of 196,992 unvaccinated adults after Covid infection?
Rintrah Radagast posted a very important article recently. It shows us a potential explanation of why excess mortality is related to COVID boosters, why the association of Covid vaccines with mortality strengthens as time goes on instead of declining, and why boosted people take the longest to clear Covid-19. Did he get it wrong?
If it is overreporting, then all non-causal events will be elevated, so why are there are just 34 reports of autism (which is one of the few symptoms that are apparently not elevated by these vaccines)?
Fraud in the Pfizer trial. In particular, Brook is aware of at least 8 cases of anaphylaxis (in excess to that of the 5 that the Blumenthal paper would have predicted) yet Pfizer reported 0. How can Brook observe 8 and Pfizer report 0? They are reporting numbers in the same trial, so someone is lying about this and Brook’s observation is within about 1 sigma of the mean
John Beaudoin has looked at hundreds of thousands of deaths in Massachusetts and the excess deaths from cardiac issues, etc. is correlated with the vaccine and inversely correlated with COVID. How do you explain that death data? Dr. Eugene Gu said all the deaths in Massachusetts are anecdotal and should just be ignored. Do you agree?
At what point do anecdotes become data? What is the threshold?
This is not a complete list.
She was unconvinced by my arguments. Her arguments included:
she hadn’t seen the study,
the numbers were low,
she hasn’t asked her cardiologists yet,
people were just nervous about COVID so that transferred to the vaccine.
All of her arguments were without support from a data perspective, e.g., she thought that the doctor visits were just nerves with providing any evidentiary support.
But science is about accepting the hypothesis that best fits the data. She’ll need to explain why her hypothesis can explain this data and why an unbiased person looking at the data should side with her.
I’m easy to convince
Liza just needs to come to the table with evidence that is more persuasive than my evidence and show us all how my evidence is misinterpreted.
I wasn’t convinced by the evidence she presented because she didn’t have any evidence to dispute what I said.